Hello all,

Possibly someone can shed some light - or direct me to some documentation or a post - about the proper procedure for creating a new DJ account in the DJ management panel of Centova 3.0.2

There appear to be some strange quirks and I cannot find guildelines to help understand them.

When creating a DJ account in Shoutcast v2....

It appears that:

1)Only lowercase lettering and numbers can be used in usernames and passwords (no symblos or uppercase)
2)Username and password must be a minimum of 4 characters long
3)Username and password may not be the same
4)You must stop and then start the server after creating a DJ account for it to become active - or stop the server, create the account and then restart it.


Are these observances correct?

Maybe someone could shed some light on the process for me - as it seems it is very hit or miss on if a DJ can log in after the account is created.  Sometimes it means deleting it and starting again, etc.

Any information would be much appreciated!

That would definitely explain some of the issues we're having. Did anyone else confirm this? I have a sysadmin background, so I gave all my DJs superstrong passwords, but I guess that's not an option here...

Thanks for documents your findings!
Michael Roark

The lack of documentation regarding the set up of DJ accounts and the stipulations is alarming. Unless Im just not finding that.

Care to share any of your findings and observations?

Maybe if we all help each other out - we can piece together the full puzzle

1)Only lowercase lettering and numbers can be used in usernames and passwords (no symblos or uppercase)

Alphanumeric usernames are required, yes, however if you're seeing any such limitations on the password, they must be being enforced by sctrans2.  We don't have any such requirements within Centova Cast.

2)Username and password must be a minimum of 4 characters long

Centova Cast enforces a username length of at least 4 characters.  There's no guesswork here -- you'll get an explicit username error in the web interface (and the DJ account won't be created) if you try to use a shorter username.

As for the password there is no minimum in Centova Cast, although there may be in sctrans2.  But if you're using anything shorter than 4 characters you're asking for trouble anyway.

3)Username and password may not be the same

I would take this for granted, but this is not something we enforce in Centova Cast.

4)You must stop and then start the server after creating a DJ account for it to become active

For use in Centova Cast, no, it's immediately active and usable.

If you're using sctrans2 and want to let the DJ source the stream with his new DJ account, then yes, sctrans2 requires a restart to recognize any configuration file changes, including addition of DJs.

Maybe someone could shed some light on the process for me - as it seems it is very hit or miss on if a DJ can log in after the account is created.  Sometimes it means deleting it and starting again, etc.

It would be helpful if you clarified what you mean by "log in".  Remember that the designed purpose of DJ accounts in Centova Cast is to let the DJ log in to the Centova Cast web interface and perform various tasks there.

sctrans2 *happens* to also support multiple usernames/passwords for live broadcasts, so when you're using sctrans2, Centova Cast also sets up the DJ's account in sctrans2 in this manner as an extra feature.

So when you say "it's hit or miss on if a DJ can log in", we need to know if you're talking about logging in to Centova Cast, or sourcing a sctrans2-based stream.  And we also need to know exactly WHY the DJ can't login -- presumably he's getting an error of some sort, but without knowing that error, we're basically stumbling around in the dark here trying to help you.

I have a sysadmin background, so I gave all my DJs superstrong passwords, but I guess that's not an option here...

There is no such limitation enforced in Centova Cast -- we always encourage users to use passwords that are as complex as possible.  It's possible that sctrans2 has additional requirements in this regard, but honestly I couldn't tell you for sure as it's not documented by Nullsoft.

The lack of documentation regarding the set up of DJ accounts and the stipulations is alarming. Unless Im just not finding that.

There is a high-level overview in our administrator's guide as well as detailed information in our administrator's reference manual.

Note that anything specific to sctrans2 is not documented in our manuals because we are the makers of Centova Cast, not sctrans2.  For sctrans2 documentation, you'd want to use Nullsoft's support resources (including the SHOUTcast DNAS Transcoder 2 Wiki).  We are not affiliated with Nullsoft and their products are not a part of Centova Cast.

Hope that helps.

Hey Steve,

Thanks for the response..

While you say none of those issues are part of Centova..

When trying to connect while AutoDJ is running - all of those points I brought up we tested and tested and tested again with both Virtual DJ and SAMs.  DJs were not able to connect if any of those parameters existed.  We started making a list of our findings when it become such a chore to connect while Auto DJ was running..

If you can refer us to any more documentation it would be very helpful.

Thanks

Todd


Edit: Preferably something with more concrete information than the Wiki

Yes the dj manager does work well, even though it's SHOUTcast v2 you should use SHOUTcast v1 in Sam, Virtual DJ, etc. (I never got the DJ manager working in v2 mode)

Made this video for my clients, have not had a single support request about this ever since so I must have done something right

Remember to restart after you create the dj account

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRoR4ZoAtk

Wow!! Great video!

Thanks for sharing that!  Will be very helpful!

Hello all,

Possibly someone can shed some light - or direct me to some documentation or a post - about the proper procedure for creating a new DJ account in the DJ management panel of Centova 3.0.2

There appear to be some strange quirks and I cannot find guildelines to help understand them.

When creating a DJ account in Shoutcast v2....

It appears that:

1)Only lowercase lettering and numbers can be used in usernames and passwords (no symblos or uppercase)
2)Username and password must be a minimum of 4 characters long
3)Username and password may not be the same
4)You must stop and then start the server after creating a DJ account for it to become active - or stop the server, create the account and then restart it.


Are these observances correct?

Maybe someone could shed some light on the process for me - as it seems it is very hit or miss on if a DJ can log in after the account is created.  Sometimes it means deleting it and starting again, etc.

Any information would be much appreciated!

The procedure helped lot.. Really thanks for sharing this very useful post.. Thanks again

Hello all,

Possibly someone can shed some led lights - or direct me to some documentation or a post - about the proper procedure for creating a new DJ account in the DJ management panel of Centova 3.0.2

There appear to be some strange quirks and I cannot find guildelines to help understand them.

When creating a DJ account in Shoutcast v2....

It appears that:

1)Only lowercase lettering and numbers can be used in usernames and passwords (no symblos or uppercase)
2)Username and password must be a minimum of 4 characters long
3)Username and password may not be the same
4)You must stop and then start the server after creating a DJ account for it to become active - or stop the server, create the account and then restart it.


Are these observances correct?

Maybe someone could shed some light on the process for me - as it seems it is very hit or miss on if a DJ can log in after the account is created.  Sometimes it means deleting it and starting again, etc.

Any information would be much appreciated!

The procedure helped lot.. Really thanks for sharing this very useful post.. Thanks again